ACC Player of the Year and Coach of the Year

[pvfan]

Show the stats in ACC play only and it's a large spread. Just like the LPD Rock, Hubbard>Vanover, Vasquez>Scheyer.

[pvfan]

Vasqeuz: 22.1 ppg, 44.2% fg, 6.7 apg, 39.8% 3pt fg
Scheyer: 18.7 ppg, 4.8 apg, 36.6% 3pt fg

Scheyer's fg% isn't listed on the ACC site for in conference because he's not in the top ten. Somebody lock this thread, or better yet leave it open. I'm rarely 100% right on something but this is it. Continue harping on Scheyer's skills if you wish Cane. Maybe Rock can chime in and tell us Vanover is better than Hubbard because he shoots 35 times a game. You see Rock, the difference is Vasquez actually shoots like 45% from the field. That is considered solid, by your logic Delaney should have won the award. He's not in the top ten in fg% either, if you shoot enough you will score. To Delaney's credit he gets fouled a ton going to the basket but anybody who shoots under 40% in ACC shouldn't be considered for POY.

[CoeburnCane]

I'm rarely 100% right on something but this is it.

In the words of the Mexican maid from Family Guy...."No....n-no....".

Compare those stats to the overall stats, and all what you posted means is that Scheyer stayed steady throughout the season w/his numbers and Vasquez played better when ACC play came around (as did the whole MD team).

Once again--I'm not harping on Scheyer. You are. I said all 3 guys were deserving to be in the conversation and...read carefully, use that PV edumacation...that Vasquez deserved the honor. I'm facking agreeing with you that Vasquez deserved it, and you can't let it rest that I have the opinion (along with plenty of other people) that all 3 guys were in the conversation at least--which is true. And you wonder why I've told you before that you with your MD bias is just as bad as someone with their "state of North Carolina" bias that you whine about on here each and every year. You proved it again.

The vote tally was:

Vasquez - 39
Scheyer - 12
Delaney - 2

...which I have no problems with at all. BUT--Vasquez didn't get every vote. That would have been the perverbial "slam dunk" you spoke of to start things off. He got the clear majority that he deserved, sure. However, some people out there actually voted for the other two guys, meaning they were at least (get this) in the conversation...which is all I said to begin with.

[Biggin]

Getting 74% of the vote isnt a slam dunk choice?

i think every President would disagree

[CoeburnCane]

Getting 74% of the vote isnt a slam dunk choice?

i think every President would disagree

Then we disagree on semantics. Big whoop. I still haven't said anything out of the way in this thread that I couldn't back up.

[Biggin]

well, except claiming someone's whole argument is worthless because they happen to be a fan, i guess you are right.

but getting 75% of the vote, and putting up the stats that GV did in the ACC, its a slam dunk choice

[R0cketer]

If you have to keep telling yourself that your opinion is 100% right, sounds like you got a problem